I qualify, as far as I know, for un-employment benefits here in Finland.
I have never held a paid-position job that took me away from home for example. And by "away from home" - I don't mean abroad. I just mean away from kids because they'd be in day care and I'd go to work from 8-4 or 9-5.
NOT saying that being a stay-at-home parent IS NOT a job....it is!! So let's get back on track.
So I submitted my paperwork really late to Kela, because I knew I "qualified" as of the 2nd week of May. But I was still in school, kids still in day-care - rushing around to pick them up and so on, hubby was still writing his thesis - so I had to be with them once I was done school...and we travelled to Wales and London for a bit too.
So I finally got around to submitting it to the office in September. They questioned why I didn't submit it back in May...not really a lot of time to be honest!
Then in June we were travelling, and after that - hubby had a major deadline...the oh-so-mighty thesis!!!
So I was taking the kids everywhere and leaving him at home to finish up the biggest project ever.
Then my school started - and with the hours I have in school - and having to be home by 3pm so V-man can get in the house (a taxi drops him off after day-care) - there's NO WAY I would get into Kela to ask questions, fill out the form together and so on.
Anyways, I justified this and they said fine - we will make a decision.
Fast forward 3 weeks later - and I'm not seeing anything in my bank account from them. So thankfully, I had an off period and rushed to Kela, waited over 30 minutes (that's what I mean about not being able to do it after class - I wouldn't get home in time!) and after the expected identity check - the Kela rep lady says,
"We are waiting on a paper from TE-Toimisto." (The un-employment office)
"What papers? I thought it was automatic...nobody said anything when I was here 3 weeks ago..." -me frantic.
"Yes it should be automatic...but they have not sent it. Maybe you could call or make an appointment with them and see what is the problem?"
I agree and thank her and am about to leave when she says, "Oh - and can we have your number?? We don't have it in this system."
You have GOT to be kidding me.
Every piece of paper/application for anything involving Kela requires a few things:
I have never held a paid-position job that took me away from home for example. And by "away from home" - I don't mean abroad. I just mean away from kids because they'd be in day care and I'd go to work from 8-4 or 9-5.
NOT saying that being a stay-at-home parent IS NOT a job....it is!! So let's get back on track.
So I submitted my paperwork really late to Kela, because I knew I "qualified" as of the 2nd week of May. But I was still in school, kids still in day-care - rushing around to pick them up and so on, hubby was still writing his thesis - so I had to be with them once I was done school...and we travelled to Wales and London for a bit too.
So I finally got around to submitting it to the office in September. They questioned why I didn't submit it back in May...not really a lot of time to be honest!
Then in June we were travelling, and after that - hubby had a major deadline...the oh-so-mighty thesis!!!
So I was taking the kids everywhere and leaving him at home to finish up the biggest project ever.
Then my school started - and with the hours I have in school - and having to be home by 3pm so V-man can get in the house (a taxi drops him off after day-care) - there's NO WAY I would get into Kela to ask questions, fill out the form together and so on.
Anyways, I justified this and they said fine - we will make a decision.
Fast forward 3 weeks later - and I'm not seeing anything in my bank account from them. So thankfully, I had an off period and rushed to Kela, waited over 30 minutes (that's what I mean about not being able to do it after class - I wouldn't get home in time!) and after the expected identity check - the Kela rep lady says,
"We are waiting on a paper from TE-Toimisto." (The un-employment office)
"What papers? I thought it was automatic...nobody said anything when I was here 3 weeks ago..." -me frantic.
"Yes it should be automatic...but they have not sent it. Maybe you could call or make an appointment with them and see what is the problem?"
I agree and thank her and am about to leave when she says, "Oh - and can we have your number?? We don't have it in this system."
You have GOT to be kidding me.
Every piece of paper/application for anything involving Kela requires a few things:
- Your name
- Your social security number
- Your PHONE NUMBER
- Your E-mail Address (most applications)
- Your signature
I must have given her a look like she had rabies because she said, "Well?"
And I pointed out the fact, that they should have my number in the system because for the past 4 years and especially within the last 2 - I have done nothing but fill out forms every 4-6 months on behalf of my son - which has my phone number and e-mail.
And I pointed out the fact, that they should have my number in the system because for the past 4 years and especially within the last 2 - I have done nothing but fill out forms every 4-6 months on behalf of my son - which has my phone number and e-mail.
She smiled and gave me the typical Finnish response: a shrug.
I gave my number to her and she said thanks and that was that.
Now I'm wondering if this is one way that Kela gets out of paying people their benefits.
I'm semi-pro-Kela...love 'em and hate'em at the same time.
With the Un-Employment/studying benefits - they will only back-date it 3 months. No ifs or buts about it.
A month will have gone by since I submitted my paperwork and by the time they come to a freaking decision and by the time they actually receive the TE-Toimisto paperwork.
So now I'm losing yet another (potential) month of income...it's not my fault that TE-Toimisto didn't do their job (as far as I know)...so who will end up getting penalized?
Me. Or maybe You. (Perhaps you're in a similar position?)
It's not the first time I have been screwed over - because Kela has these set rules of not paying back what is owed - even when it's their fault and they admit it openly in person....
So I called up TE-Tomisto yesterday and the first guy must have thought I was drunk - because I had been waiting for 10 minutes during their horrible electric rock waiting music...I started eating my breakfast...a slice of feta pie...And of course I'm on the last big bite - and he answers the phone.
I asked if he spoke English - with a mouth semi-full of food and he hangs up on me.
I asked if he spoke English - with a mouth semi-full of food and he hangs up on me.
Not even an "Ei!" (No)
Just a flat-out "click".
I call back to the switchboard and ask for the direct line to the JKL TE-Toimisto office and call them back again...another 5 minutes wait - and mouth empty of food....and someone picks up.
After some Finnglish - she gets me someone who speaks English...
And may I point out that rep sounds like she LOVES her job...*Major sarcasm font - if one existed...*
After some Finnglish - she gets me someone who speaks English...
And may I point out that rep sounds like she LOVES her job...*Major sarcasm font - if one existed...*
"Hi there, I need a paper for Kela saying that I qualify for benefits - they haven't received it yet...what do I do?" -me trying to be friendly and patient.
"What's your name? How do I spell it? I'll do it. Bye."
So I have no idea if she means it, or what kind of time-frame I'm looking at...
But here's hoping??